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though joe biden hear you out because i'm not sure i'm a gentleman look at them look at the moves on him you know i don't know i don't know if he's a if he's a this guy but he you know he looks like a president vice presidential guy joe biden and whatever the case joe biden he's known for his big about big mouth he's known for his even bigger teeth when obama recently passed his major health care act at the podium biden gave him a hug and as he hugged him he said in a negative way he said this is a big deal guys run run the grab so we can hear what he had to say mr joe biden vice president. the president the united states of america barack obama. thank you everybody. not only not only was heard by barack obama but it was heard by everyone on stage even people started tweeting about it saying that you are mr joe biden you're absolutely right in the you know that guy's story or is it just me or has a bronco obama in some way been involved in almost all of the open mikes whether he's talking to someone or being talked about or it's his vice president he's you know involved in a lot of a
though joe biden hear you out because i'm not sure i'm a gentleman look at them look at the moves on him you know i don't know i don't know if he's a if he's a this guy but he you know he looks like a president vice presidential guy joe biden and whatever the case joe biden he's known for his big about big mouth he's known for his even bigger teeth when obama recently passed his major health care act at the podium biden gave him a hug and as he hugged him he said in a negative way he said this...
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senate majority leader harry reid said we should talk to vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. earlier republicans suggested changing the way inflation is calculated on changes like social security read offered this reaction late in the day. >> i was really grass fied to hear republicans taking command by social security set off the table. this should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides negotiations continue. still time left to reach an agreement. >> meanwhile west virginia democrat joe mansion introduced the calm act trying to soften the blow as the country goes off the fiscal cliff. it would maphase in tax hikes or the years and prioritize spending cuts. he says he's frustrated and tried to do something. >> it was crossing the wires it's more than frustration it sounds like desperation at this point as they are losing hope. the chained cpi the social security adjustment you were talking about basically changes the way they configure the cost of living and would make those benefits smaller checks. does it soun
senate majority leader harry reid said we should talk to vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. earlier republicans suggested changing the way inflation is calculated on changes like social security read offered this reaction late in the day. >> i was really grass fied to hear republicans taking command by social security set off the table. this should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides negotiations continue. still...
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to the vice president and said, perhaps joe biden could help jump start things. that's where we are now. there was a lot of fatigue and weariness as the day went on the without a package for members to consider. there was a lot of back and forth, as you know, about different elements of a potential deal and what was angering one side or another. what we expected now is, barring some late night breakthrough which seems unlikely, we would hear from the senate tomorrow, late morning, get a sense where they are, if they're any further along, and then if there is a package, it would be revealed to each side, meaning the house and the senate, let members take a look at it, and gauge if they're ready to go and vote on it. it is the final day of the year tomorrow. and so the time could not be any shorter. and that's putting pressure on everyone involved. we just don't have a sense if there is optimism, but at least we're told they are still talking. chris? >> obviously, vice president biden has not been involved in these negotiations up until now. do we know why the whit
to the vice president and said, perhaps joe biden could help jump start things. that's where we are now. there was a lot of fatigue and weariness as the day went on the without a package for members to consider. there was a lot of back and forth, as you know, about different elements of a potential deal and what was angering one side or another. what we expected now is, barring some late night breakthrough which seems unlikely, we would hear from the senate tomorrow, late morning, get a sense...
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the republican leader calls joe biden off the bench, right. this is kind of what we all had been waiting for. the senate republican leader and the vice president have a good working relationship. we saw that last summer in the debt ceiling debate. those two guys swooped in at the end and helped make a deal happen. when i talked to mcconnell's folks last week, they said, you know, the vice president has been on the sidelines here. we have not been contacted by them. we have not been contacted by the president. it was an interesting move by mitch mcconnell to call joe biden today and try to jump-start these negotiations when they locked up with the majority leader on the democrat side. that will be something to watch in the coming hours. democrats are concerned he will cut a bad deal. they're feeling pretty good right now. will joe biden come in an emboldin the republicans or will the dems hang together across pennsylvania avenue from the white house to congress. a big storyline that we're all watching very closely. >> now that we here that they
the republican leader calls joe biden off the bench, right. this is kind of what we all had been waiting for. the senate republican leader and the vice president have a good working relationship. we saw that last summer in the debt ceiling debate. those two guys swooped in at the end and helped make a deal happen. when i talked to mcconnell's folks last week, they said, you know, the vice president has been on the sidelines here. we have not been contacted by them. we have not been contacted by...
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the republican leader calls joe biden of the bends. -- bench. this is what we have all been waiting for. the republican leader and the vice president have a good working relationship. we saw that last summer. they swooped in and helped make a deal happen. mcconnell's folks said the vice president has been on the sideline. it was an interesting move by mitch mcconnell to try -- to called joe biden today and jump start the negotiations. i think that will be something to watch in the coming hours. how does he play? there are democrats that are concerned he will cut a bad deal. they are feeling pretty good right now. will the democrats hang together across pennsylvania avenue from the white house to congress? a big story line we are watching right now. >> we hear they are coming back, and senator reed wants to bring the senate back. is it likely he will have a deal? >> i wish i could tell you that. if i could, i would be a millionaire. i would be making bets on the starch market. -- stock market. the hope is that there could be some kind of deal. de
the republican leader calls joe biden of the bends. -- bench. this is what we have all been waiting for. the republican leader and the vice president have a good working relationship. we saw that last summer. they swooped in and helped make a deal happen. mcconnell's folks said the vice president has been on the sideline. it was an interesting move by mitch mcconnell to try -- to called joe biden today and jump start the negotiations. i think that will be something to watch in the coming hours....
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vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell are at the center of the talks. and we're locked in urgent negotiations late last night while the senate has just reconvened while the house is on standby. good morning, sir. if it comes down to a vote, you're the one who will count the votes as the house minority whip. what are you hearing from your senate counterparts this morning? any signs of progress there? >> there are some signs of progress. we have heard that there is another offer on the table by the administration to reach agreement. in terms of the specifics, i don't know all the specifics. some of which i'm not too happy with. some of which i don't think make the math work, but i think the most important objective is of the administration's and to not go over this cliff, to make sure working americans don't get a tax increase tomorrow and to make sure that those on unemployment who have been unable to find a job have some help in the week ahead. i think we need to keep our powder dry to remain positive. there's still time to act and we need to reach agre
vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell are at the center of the talks. and we're locked in urgent negotiations late last night while the senate has just reconvened while the house is on standby. good morning, sir. if it comes down to a vote, you're the one who will count the votes as the house minority whip. what are you hearing from your senate counterparts this morning? any signs of progress there? >> there are some signs of progress. we have heard that there is another offer on...
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joe biden is saying, yeah, 2016. maybe. >> he is not going through the ritual of saying -- he is clearly it does interest me. it's hard to -- i would separate this from presidential politics. as hard as that is for somebody like us. >> come on. it's tough. i do think this represents the fact that at the end of the day particularly in your intense dead looirn situation personal relationships do matter. two men that have been in the senate and know each other. i don't know of if i particular affection, they know each other and they know what makes the other tick. they know what the other incentives are. the personal relationships can matter. there's no question. i think it will give sort of credibility to joe biden's standing, and they will show the value of that kind of institutional knowledge and seniority. >> they say it's the deal and it's the program meter is 450,000 with an extension of the patch in amt and extension of unemployment benefits and all these sorts of things. are both sides able even if they're not r
joe biden is saying, yeah, 2016. maybe. >> he is not going through the ritual of saying -- he is clearly it does interest me. it's hard to -- i would separate this from presidential politics. as hard as that is for somebody like us. >> come on. it's tough. i do think this represents the fact that at the end of the day particularly in your intense dead looirn situation personal relationships do matter. two men that have been in the senate and know each other. i don't know of if i...
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vice president joe biden. some of the last people in the building, i know, come on through, guys, if you want. there's one of the crews that -- the worker crews are starting to come into work tonight. we're the last reporting crew. all the members of congress have pretty much gone. the republicans in the house were meeting late tonight to try to talk about what to do, in the end this is what our producer deirdre walsh heard from them. the message is just sit tight, stay tuned and i think what we have to do, don, is find out tomorrow morning, whether there is any progress between senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden. there is definitely hope. there is not a lot of time. >> let me tell you this, lisa. when you see the workers there, and the crew that -- and those are the people who these negotiations are about. every day americans who work these types of jobs, who are every day americans and so there you go. i think that is absolutely tells the story. >> don, i want to. i want to sneak in one thing we
vice president joe biden. some of the last people in the building, i know, come on through, guys, if you want. there's one of the crews that -- the worker crews are starting to come into work tonight. we're the last reporting crew. all the members of congress have pretty much gone. the republicans in the house were meeting late tonight to try to talk about what to do, in the end this is what our producer deirdre walsh heard from them. the message is just sit tight, stay tuned and i think what...
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maybe 7:30 where vice president biden will update the caucus on the state of the deal. senate democrats we're told have not signed off on the deal. after the caucus there is an expectation of votes around possibly 10:00 p.m. maybe later. as we get word about the senate action. and knowing about it. but it will be a while. 10:00 p.m. we're going to be back here at 8:00 p.m. you were saying about this deal, we rudely cut you off before. that the entitlement reform is not specific on the republican side. democratic side, frankly there is no spending cuts in this deal. no additional spending cuts. >> there this is the other part of this. obama doesn't -- obama believes in stimulating the economy through spending. he doesn't believe in making all the cuts. so again, like you are asking him to adopt a world view he doesn't have. >> bret: even though he talked about it many times. >> he does talk about it. >> expounding upon it. fixing social security and medicare. >> anybody who reads paul krugman, grand pubah of economics on the left his worry that the deficit will be reduce
maybe 7:30 where vice president biden will update the caucus on the state of the deal. senate democrats we're told have not signed off on the deal. after the caucus there is an expectation of votes around possibly 10:00 p.m. maybe later. as we get word about the senate action. and knowing about it. but it will be a while. 10:00 p.m. we're going to be back here at 8:00 p.m. you were saying about this deal, we rudely cut you off before. that the entitlement reform is not specific on the...
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so he reached out to vice president biden. biden engaged. and what looked like a stalemate yesterday really has begun to move forward overnight, the two on the phone late into the evening until midnight i am told working out the details of a compromise. their staffers on the phone into the early morning hours. folks here at the white house up quite late as well. so it looks like some type of compromise is starting to form that would include increasing taxes on those making $450,000 or less. remember president obama wanted that threshold at 250,000. house speaker john boehner wanted it much higher at about a million dollars. this is somewhere in between. also, an extension of the unemployment insurance benefits. they're still hashing out some of the final details but it does appear as though the vice president was key in helping these negotiations to move forward. >> the negotiations go on there, kristen, we are watching the senate floor as they discuss the very details of that and debate it. keith, to you on this. political pointing out, bid
so he reached out to vice president biden. biden engaged. and what looked like a stalemate yesterday really has begun to move forward overnight, the two on the phone late into the evening until midnight i am told working out the details of a compromise. their staffers on the phone into the early morning hours. folks here at the white house up quite late as well. so it looks like some type of compromise is starting to form that would include increasing taxes on those making $450,000 or less....
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vice president biden is in charge of that task force. they've been given a deadline of january to present ideas to the president. the president gives his state of the union address in early february. and then it's off to the races and trying to get something done. so the idea that the president isn't going to push hard on doing something about gun safety, gun control, however you want to talk about it i think is a little bit ludicrous. julian and james, thanks very much. >> thank you. >> happy new year. >> stay with us. much more ahead. >> many new year. >> happy new year. in this country we say happy new year. >> ha, ha, ha, ha! safety, gun control, however you in this country we say happy new safety, gun control, however you in this country we say happy new >>> stay with us. the day's "top lines" are coming up. ♪ i heard somebody say ♪ burn, baby burn ♪ disco inferno ♪ burn, baby burn >>> fireworks and old friends, champagne toasts and resolutions. oh, and that dreaded fiscal cliff. here are today's "top lines." countdown to sk
vice president biden is in charge of that task force. they've been given a deadline of january to present ideas to the president. the president gives his state of the union address in early february. and then it's off to the races and trying to get something done. so the idea that the president isn't going to push hard on doing something about gun safety, gun control, however you want to talk about it i think is a little bit ludicrous. julian and james, thanks very much. >> thank you....
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biden used to say this this congress ain't your grandfather's congress. when guys like that used to get to the and work out deals, and it was mostly guys, the caucuses would kind of fall in line behind them. not exactly the case today. especially in the house. >> especially in the house. if they work out a deal, that's my question, can they possibly work out a deal that satisfies the house? >> i don't see it. look, i mean the deal that we're talking about, and i think that john talked about, about some optimism last night, see some snippets of it in some of the news coverage overnight, is essentially some deal to increase taxes, to put off sequestration cuts, and to add some additional spending in the form of extending unemployment benefits. so you're talking about bringing to the house floor a bill to raise taxes, and increase spending, and put up -- >> they say forget about it with boehner. >> i just don't see it in this context. and you know, if people aren't -- >> -- thought that we would -- >> we've been saying this for awhile. >> and i also want to
biden used to say this this congress ain't your grandfather's congress. when guys like that used to get to the and work out deals, and it was mostly guys, the caucuses would kind of fall in line behind them. not exactly the case today. especially in the house. >> especially in the house. if they work out a deal, that's my question, can they possibly work out a deal that satisfies the house? >> i don't see it. look, i mean the deal that we're talking about, and i think that john...
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it's led by joe biden. he has already convened it twice. he has met with law enforcement officials, with mayors, and more excitingly, you've got people on the hill already announcing bills that are going to put forward on day one of the new congress. we've got senator feinstein proposing an assault weapons ban. we've got someone else with a high capacity ammunition clips. think it's maybe lautenberg, and you have the president publicly saying now that he supports those bills. this is the most momentum to date. this is the most we're going to see for a while. they have to build now or go home. >> that's the question. we go back to the question of capitol hill gridlock, and as much as people want to sort of talk about the issue and it makes everyone feel good to say they're on the right side of the issue, but can something like this get through the house of representatives? >> two dirty secrets. the first one is the white house before the election is actually going to do something on gun control if he got re-elected. second dirty secret is yo
it's led by joe biden. he has already convened it twice. he has met with law enforcement officials, with mayors, and more excitingly, you've got people on the hill already announcing bills that are going to put forward on day one of the new congress. we've got senator feinstein proposing an assault weapons ban. we've got someone else with a high capacity ammunition clips. think it's maybe lautenberg, and you have the president publicly saying now that he supports those bills. this is the most...
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, the name we haven't heard is vice-president joe biden. what's the significance of them bringing him in in the 11th hour discussion? >> i think it's important because he was in delaware this weekend and all of a sudden, suddenly, rushed back to the white house early today and that's significant because when they had things all boxed up a year and a half ago on the debt ceiling and looked like they'd hit a brick wall, it was joe biden reaching out to mitch mcconnell and bridged the divide and magically had a deal and some senior aides who say joe biden might be the key to unsticking this, afternoon biden and mcconnell worked on the debt ceiling, many years in the senate, obviously, together and that's why they have that relationship, there's some in the white house who call the vice-president the mcconnell whisperer, as if he has some sort of magic potion that bring people together. >> stuart? >> can i just ask you, ed, if there's any deal you've heard of that's bandied around here, any deal at all from either side which would cut spending
, the name we haven't heard is vice-president joe biden. what's the significance of them bringing him in in the 11th hour discussion? >> i think it's important because he was in delaware this weekend and all of a sudden, suddenly, rushed back to the white house early today and that's significant because when they had things all boxed up a year and a half ago on the debt ceiling and looked like they'd hit a brick wall, it was joe biden reaching out to mitch mcconnell and bridged the divide...
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mcconnell called biden. they were apparently able to break that impasse by reasoning together. that's the way our democracy works at the end of the day, when it works, people being reasonable in a room together based on a reservoir of trust. and that's an asset biden brings to the table. >> john, you talk about being reasonable, you would think that congress, a room full of lawmakers, they know how to negotiate, they know how to take baby steps so each side at least feels they're getting a little bit of what they want. can -- why did they have to call biden in at the last minute? why didn't they call him earlier? why are we here today on the last day of december? why couldn't this have been done weeks ago? >> deb, we're here at the last day of december in the final hours because of a culture of division and dysfunction in washington, d.c. and it didn't happen overnight. it has been created over a long time, because the polarization of the two parties, the system of redistricting that reduced the number of swing districts to one-third what they were 20 years ago, so the incentiv
mcconnell called biden. they were apparently able to break that impasse by reasoning together. that's the way our democracy works at the end of the day, when it works, people being reasonable in a room together based on a reservoir of trust. and that's an asset biden brings to the table. >> john, you talk about being reasonable, you would think that congress, a room full of lawmakers, they know how to negotiate, they know how to take baby steps so each side at least feels they're getting...
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right now his representative, joe biden, was in the senate for a very long time, is trying to forge a deal with mitch mcconnell. they've had a successful partnership in the past, and harry reid, the majority leader, seems to go along with that. so maybe the outlines of a deal can be between those two principals. then again, we have john boehner, speaker of the house, has to control his own republican party. what happens if mcconnell and biden create a minimal deal and boehner can't sell it, then we're back to square one, which is failure. >> right. which boehner couldn't do with his plan b a couple of days ago. >> that's right. >> the question is, if some deal should be reached, i'm not expecting something that's overreaching, something large, is it short-term? >> very short-term. and then i'm sorry to be the dispenser of bad news, we have the whole fiscal cliff again with the fiscal reputation in terms of the borrowing maximum, the ceiling, which will come due in about a month where they have to raise the debt ceiling. you remember the president said, i'm not going to play that game
right now his representative, joe biden, was in the senate for a very long time, is trying to forge a deal with mitch mcconnell. they've had a successful partnership in the past, and harry reid, the majority leader, seems to go along with that. so maybe the outlines of a deal can be between those two principals. then again, we have john boehner, speaker of the house, has to control his own republican party. what happens if mcconnell and biden create a minimal deal and boehner can't sell it,...
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biden is important. if there's anybody with a personal relationship in the white house -- if you can fault the white house for one big thing, it's the lack of developing a personal relationship with mitch mcconnell, between the president and him. there is one between joe biden and him. >> chuck todd, thanks. >> you got it. >>> let's get to the morning's other top stories. andrea canning is in for natalie at the news desk. good morning. >> good morning. and happy almost new year's to you. and happy new year's to you at home. authorities are hoping to speak with a seriously injured bus driver. at least nine people were killed and 26 injured. the bus was returning to canada after a trip to las vegas. >>> the woman charged with pushing a stranger to his death in front of a new york city subway train thursday reportedly has an issue of mental health issues and three previous arrest s. erica men endez targeted a 36-year-old native of india because she blamed, quote, muslims, egyptians and hichlt n duchlt s for
biden is important. if there's anybody with a personal relationship in the white house -- if you can fault the white house for one big thing, it's the lack of developing a personal relationship with mitch mcconnell, between the president and him. there is one between joe biden and him. >> chuck todd, thanks. >> you got it. >>> let's get to the morning's other top stories. andrea canning is in for natalie at the news desk. good morning. >> good morning. and happy...
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mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have gotten things done when working together in the past. can they do it now? let's go to dana bash. dana, what do you think? is it promising? can they go it now? >> reporter: well, let's start there. it certainly has happened before between these two men, and it's happened before when democrats on capitol hill are either split or have gotten, frankly, just too frustrated with the republican counterparts to have conversations to be able to find bipartisan agreement. these are the two men who negotiated an extension of the bush era tax cuts for two years. that happened two years ago when republicans had a lot of political capital because they just won the house in a big way. whether or not these two men are actually going to be the ones to strike a deal, we're not sure, but we are told, our ted barrett and jessica yellin and i are told by multiple sources that it does seem that at this point, at this late hour, the talks are primarily centered around and between these two men, between mitch mcconnell, t
mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have gotten things done when working together in the past. can they do it now? let's go to dana bash. dana, what do you think? is it promising? can they go it now? >> reporter: well, let's start there. it certainly has happened before between these two men, and it's happened before when democrats on capitol hill are either split or have gotten, frankly, just too frustrated with the republican counterparts...
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he made a better case for barack obama and joe biden and barack obama and joe biden had ever made. the other thing about bill clinton's speech is he had the ultimate line in it -- "this economy was so bad even i could not have fixed it." >> you pointed out in the opening of the show what was the worst political moment, which was the clint eastwood wasting 12 minutes of prime time when just before, you have had these truly heart rending stories -- heartwarming stories about the humanity of the republican challenger, and also a bio which was not shown. that was terrible. >> the reason why clinton's speech worked was because people know it was bill clinton giving that speech. so many speeches are written by someone else, and they read that way, and the public is sick of it. >> finally, predictions for the year ahead in the supreme court. >> the supreme court -- it will be a gonzo year involving the supreme court possibly striking down the voting rights act, the obstruction of gay marriage, and even weather you can patent -- whether you can patent a genie. >> happy new year to you. she
he made a better case for barack obama and joe biden and barack obama and joe biden had ever made. the other thing about bill clinton's speech is he had the ultimate line in it -- "this economy was so bad even i could not have fixed it." >> you pointed out in the opening of the show what was the worst political moment, which was the clint eastwood wasting 12 minutes of prime time when just before, you have had these truly heart rending stories -- heartwarming stories about the...
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. >> good morning, terrell, vice president joe biden is now in on negotiations. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell reached out to him sunday night after talks with democrats stalled. but with just hours go until this deadline there are still obstacles standing in the way of even a watered down agreement. lawmakers left the capitol sunday night without a deal in place, but leaders from both parties expressed their willingness to continue working. >> there's still significant difference between the two sides but negotiations continue. >> i want everyone know i'm willing to get this done but i need a dance partner. >> some progress was made sunday when they dropped a proposal to slow social security growth but the main sticking point between democrats and republicans continues to be over the threshold of tax increases. president obama campaigned on raising taxes on income over $250,000 while many congressional republicans have pushed back on any increase in taxes. >> they say that the biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way
. >> good morning, terrell, vice president joe biden is now in on negotiations. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell reached out to him sunday night after talks with democrats stalled. but with just hours go until this deadline there are still obstacles standing in the way of even a watered down agreement. lawmakers left the capitol sunday night without a deal in place, but leaders from both parties expressed their willingness to continue working. >> there's still significant...
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go biden. i like this. cinc is a network. >> king is an independent. >> that's what i'm going to be watching. >> do you see the ce,of the servetive movement? >> i think it's hard for jim demint -- it's like this aol time warner merger. it makes a lot of sense on paper. we'll be able to overcome some of the institutional challenges. it's something that's out in the -- the think tank worl. >> we'll have more from the gaggle coming up. plus, the six-year itch,it's a bedrock of conventional wisdom. or is it just a made-up thing? second term president, supposedly struggling in his midterm. we'll let you know whether you think it's real or simply a coincidence. but, first, our special trivia question. who was the first president and who is the most recent president to officially start a term on a sunday? the answer and more is coming up on the daily rundown. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing.
go biden. i like this. cinc is a network. >> king is an independent. >> that's what i'm going to be watching. >> do you see the ce,of the servetive movement? >> i think it's hard for jim demint -- it's like this aol time warner merger. it makes a lot of sense on paper. we'll be able to overcome some of the institutional challenges. it's something that's out in the -- the think tank worl. >> we'll have more from the gaggle coming up. plus, the six-year itch,it's a...
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mitch mcconnell and joe biden in talks. we will move to the jump page on some of the sticking points in this. democrats oppose it to let the tax cuts expire on incomes over $450,000 a year. host: that from inside "the washington post." ed is on the phone from michigan. good morning to you. caller: good morning, c-span. i have listened to some of what the democrats have said. the way i look at it -- if the rich, if they are worried about 3% raise, one of the middle class and the poor or about the same raise? is it your patriotic duty to pay taxes? if the poor are concerned about their money going down, a lot of energy regulations are coming into effect that will cost electric costs to co-op which will affect the poor just as badly as it is the rich? host: mark from ohio, good morning. caller: all the power was taken from the epa and given to the nra. there is no fiscal cliff. there was another so-called fiscal cliff in 2008. give money to the billionaires and banks. when eisenhower took office, he gutted the military. taxes
mitch mcconnell and joe biden in talks. we will move to the jump page on some of the sticking points in this. democrats oppose it to let the tax cuts expire on incomes over $450,000 a year. host: that from inside "the washington post." ed is on the phone from michigan. good morning to you. caller: good morning, c-span. i have listened to some of what the democrats have said. the way i look at it -- if the rich, if they are worried about 3% raise, one of the middle class and the poor...
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people call biden the mcconnell whisper around here. they are able to at least talk and get things done. they have been key players in the last negotiation. i have to tell you, dagen, the white house and the vice president office are not telling anything about the talks. harry reid seems to be on the sidelines right now. dagen: the idea of mitch mcconnell in the vice president whispering to one another in each other's ears, just, well, leaves me with no words. [ laughter ] i think i should end it there before i embarrass myself. >> that is okay. the horse whisperer, the mcconnell whisper -- dagen: the dog whisperer on yes, i understand. thank you very much. peter barnes, happy new year. twelve hours to go and no deal inside. david, your reaction to no action. >> it definitely looks really bad right now. as if we may go over the cliff. i, you know, other people on this network know more than i do on this. the markets do not seem to be freaking out right now. it seems like they are perfectly happy to watch us go into the new year. everybo
people call biden the mcconnell whisper around here. they are able to at least talk and get things done. they have been key players in the last negotiation. i have to tell you, dagen, the white house and the vice president office are not telling anything about the talks. harry reid seems to be on the sidelines right now. dagen: the idea of mitch mcconnell in the vice president whispering to one another in each other's ears, just, well, leaves me with no words. [ laughter ] i think i should end...
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that joe biden, the negotiations with mitch mcconnell essentially borne fruit. republicans annoyed with that. the tax threshold, that's agreed upon. republicans agree, too. what about this sequester? supposed to be the trigger, supposed to be the apocalyptic scenario that made cuts in spending necessary. otherwise we go over the cliff and there are cuts to defense and domestic programs. the president wants to delay them two months, three yearmonta year. many republicans say, absolutely not. many were angry he chose to have a campaign-style event in the white house complex. mitch mcconnell took the floor of the senate and pretty much calling the president's bluff saying, yes, we have an agreement on taxes. let's go ahead and vote on that. leave the sequester the way it is. that's not going to fly. we have an impasse here. there have been reports that the house of representatives to take whatever passes the senate if something passes and do it a minute after midnight. that scenario of steve and i and all of us talking about voting to cut taxes or not. i'm told rec
that joe biden, the negotiations with mitch mcconnell essentially borne fruit. republicans annoyed with that. the tax threshold, that's agreed upon. republicans agree, too. what about this sequester? supposed to be the trigger, supposed to be the apocalyptic scenario that made cuts in spending necessary. otherwise we go over the cliff and there are cuts to defense and domestic programs. the president wants to delay them two months, three yearmonta year. many republicans say, absolutely not....
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vice president joe biden will see his pay jump from $225,000 to nearly $232,000 a year. house speaker john boehner will see his salary increase to more than $224,000. and senate majority leader harry reid will take home an annual pay of $194,000 after his raise. so those guys are getting a raise. and if you are counting on a tax refund in the next few weeks, the fiscal cliff could force you to wait just a little bit longer than usual. >>> checking our top stories. the nation is now 14 hours away from the fiscal cliff. sources tell us vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell talked through the night and vow to keep these negotiations going on today. the gridlock in washington could also hold up your tax refund. you might have to wait until late march to file if congress does not approve a short-term fix for the alternative minimum tax in the next few days. same issue two years ago delayed the opening of tax season by four weeks to mid-february. >>> former president george h.w. bush is still in a houston hospital but no longer in intensive care.
vice president joe biden will see his pay jump from $225,000 to nearly $232,000 a year. house speaker john boehner will see his salary increase to more than $224,000. and senate majority leader harry reid will take home an annual pay of $194,000 after his raise. so those guys are getting a raise. and if you are counting on a tax refund in the next few weeks, the fiscal cliff could force you to wait just a little bit longer than usual. >>> checking our top stories. the nation is now 14...
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whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >>> we've been asking you, our viewers, to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives. let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to grow this economy for the long term not the short term. >> have a good night. >>> i'm don lemon, and this is cnn's top ten of 2012. this hour we look at the stories that captured our attention. what we see as the biggest stories of the year, around the world in crime, money, weather and even the biggest scandals. and later this hour, the big reveal of the most intriguing people of the year as chosen by you. we begin with the topic that dominated our coverage for much of the year. here's cnn's political correspondent candy crowley with the top phen political stories of 2012. >> picking the top ten moments of an elect
whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >>> we've been asking you, our viewers, to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives. let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to...
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biden has brokered 11th-hour deals with the republican leader in the past. mcconnell's appeal came just hours after the president appeared on "meet the press" and called out republican leaders by name. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate, but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell is live on capitol hill. kelly o., i'm looking at the clock, we are now 14 hours and 58 minutes from going over the fiscal cliff. let's outline -- >> reporter: but who's counting, right, chris? >> yeah, who's counting? let's go over for people, what remains unresolved? it seems like two weeks ago they were pretty well set on the basic parameters of this thing, so let's talk about what's left to deal on? >> reporter: well, there are some significant differences, but
biden has brokered 11th-hour deals with the republican leader in the past. mcconnell's appeal came just hours after the president appeared on "meet the press" and called out republican leaders by name. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate, but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans...
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mcconnell and biden get along much better than mcconnell does with president obama. in the last 24 hours, the administration has given ground on raising threshold for income tax rates and estate tax rates, but also demanded much more in new government spending the republicans are comfortable with. it's that division between spending and taxes that continues to divide both sides, and that is the one thing that may prevent a deal from being achieved in the final hours as we get nearer to the fiscal cliff. >> major garrett, thank you. senator is live on capitol hill. >> thanks for having me. >> if there's a deal today, why would you vote to extend tax cuts if there are no new spending cuts? >> that's the exact thing. the real problem is the spending. if you want to raise taxes -- and the president promised in the campaign he wanted to do that -- it's to pay down on the deficit. there's no evidence of any of that. that's a major sticking point. the democrats are divided on tax rates, on the death tax, on taxes on small business and the republicans are holding firm that y
mcconnell and biden get along much better than mcconnell does with president obama. in the last 24 hours, the administration has given ground on raising threshold for income tax rates and estate tax rates, but also demanded much more in new government spending the republicans are comfortable with. it's that division between spending and taxes that continues to divide both sides, and that is the one thing that may prevent a deal from being achieved in the final hours as we get nearer to the...
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ernie to joe biden to break the stalemate. >> we are running at a time. there is too much at stake. >> workers may see less and there paycheck if there is no agreement. government contractors might be forced to lay off employees. businesses could lose tax breaks. many americans are still hoping for an 11th hour compromise. >> i would hope they could work together and realize that this is affecting everyone. >> both chambers will reconvene later this morning, at which point there will be 12 hours left until the deadline. >> what of lawmakers working on today? >> will we know is that harry reid will likely reap introduced president obama's campaign season plan which would extend the tax cuts to americans making less than $250,000 a year but raise taxes on the wealthier americans. this is something republicans have turned down time and time again. >> maryland could lose hundreds of millions of dollars if we do go off the fiscal cliff. kim dacey is live with have the gridlock in washington is affecting us in maryland. >> we have a lot of people employed by th
ernie to joe biden to break the stalemate. >> we are running at a time. there is too much at stake. >> workers may see less and there paycheck if there is no agreement. government contractors might be forced to lay off employees. businesses could lose tax breaks. many americans are still hoping for an 11th hour compromise. >> i would hope they could work together and realize that this is affecting everyone. >> both chambers will reconvene later this morning, at which...
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and joe biden as noted in the introduction, has been in the senate for three decades. he has a unique ability to work with mitch mcconnell, his longtime colleague to try to close this deal. that doesn't mean they can do it, but it's a sign that things are getting close to the end zone if those two were talking all night. the report i got early this morning at 6:00 a.m. is that their talks had been good, constructive and continued very late into the night. >> thank you, john, for that. john harwood in washington. lawmakers, as john say, continue talks this morning as we inch closer to the cliff itself. what role is the no-tax pledge playing in the negotiations. founder of americans for tax reform joins us this morning not too far from where john is sitting. grover, good morning. >> good morning. good to be with you. >> you've been quoted as saying that rates will not increase. that kind of flies in the face with what john just told us. what's true? >> well, two things. earlier, my point was that as long as these negotiations were conducted with c-span cameras there, and
and joe biden as noted in the introduction, has been in the senate for three decades. he has a unique ability to work with mitch mcconnell, his longtime colleague to try to close this deal. that doesn't mean they can do it, but it's a sign that things are getting close to the end zone if those two were talking all night. the report i got early this morning at 6:00 a.m. is that their talks had been good, constructive and continued very late into the night. >> thank you, john, for that....
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mcconnell and joe biden are talking. when things between mcconnell and reid stopped working, mcconnell, highest ranked republican in the senate, reid the highest ranking democrat in the senate. we have to believe some work is being done somewhere. >> some of it is being done somewhere. talking to an aide to senator mcconnell, we understand that discussions between biden and mcconnell went into the night so this is something that they are working on, although certainly, yes, it's being left to the last minute and unclear if we'll avert the fiscal cliff. talk to snom senators, and they say we are going over the cliff. some way they think there will be a deal by tonight and a vote by tonight, but the fact is it's very iffy. here is what's not iffy. an incentive if we go over the cliff to get this done. because it is -- both sides have been preparing themselves for the blame game. it is in full swing now. president obama said, basically saying if we go over the cliff, he is really going to take aim at republicans more than h
mcconnell and joe biden are talking. when things between mcconnell and reid stopped working, mcconnell, highest ranked republican in the senate, reid the highest ranking democrat in the senate. we have to believe some work is being done somewhere. >> some of it is being done somewhere. talking to an aide to senator mcconnell, we understand that discussions between biden and mcconnell went into the night so this is something that they are working on, although certainly, yes, it's being...
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but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: enter vice president joe biden, called by mcconnell. can the senate veteran help congress stumble to a deal on the last day? if not, and we do go off the cliff, congress could be more likely to make a deal and quickly, because then lawmakers could claim they voted to cut middle class taxes. i'm steve handlesman, news4, capitol hill. >> if nothing else, it looks like there will be a deal to keep the price of milk from skyrocketing. leaders have agreed to a one-year ex-tense of the 2008 farm bill that expired in october. the deal will avert a spike in milk prices to as much as $8 a gallon. but it has to come to a vote in the house and senate tomorrow. a new report tonight further criticizes the state department for its response to the u.s. consulate attack in libya. nbc news s obtained an advance copy of the investigation. in it, it concludes that bad security allowed militants to walk right into the compound. the report criticizes the state department for failing to sufficiently respond to requests for additional security. the full repor
but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: enter vice president joe biden, called by mcconnell. can the senate veteran help congress stumble to a deal on the last day? if not, and we do go off the cliff, congress could be more likely to make a deal and quickly, because then lawmakers could claim they voted to cut middle class taxes. i'm steve handlesman, news4, capitol hill. >> if nothing else, it looks like there will be a deal to keep the price of milk from skyrocketing. leaders...
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. >> could joe biden be the fix? he appears to be taking over for democrats after a counteroffer to prevent a big tax hike is met by silence. harry reid says democrats couldn't respond. >> there is still significant difference between the two sides but negotiations continue. there's still time left to reach an agreement and we intend to continue negotiations. >> i am willing to get this done but i need a dance partner. >> so the senate will try to work on this again later today and we are talking about something small here if anything a continuation of the busheir raw tax cuts for most americans and renewal of long-term unemployment benefits. but payroll taxes will probably go up tomorrow for everyone. that's a big hit for paychecks and sec quest tore automatic cuts would take place. the markets investors are skiddish not knowing what's going to happen as a result of the midnight deadline. back to you guys. >> thank you very much doug luzader live from washington. we will check back with you. time for a look at who i
. >> could joe biden be the fix? he appears to be taking over for democrats after a counteroffer to prevent a big tax hike is met by silence. harry reid says democrats couldn't respond. >> there is still significant difference between the two sides but negotiations continue. there's still time left to reach an agreement and we intend to continue negotiations. >> i am willing to get this done but i need a dance partner. >> so the senate will try to work on this again...
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vice president biden, mcconnell, said to be about $100,000 apart with biden willing to preserve tax cuts for families making up $450,000 and mack connell wanting to go to 550,000. south dakota senator john thune is too on miss tick but his focus is different than senator bocker's. >> i certainly hope the negotiations occurring right now can conclude in a way that will give us an outcome that prevents those tax rates from increasing on americans across this country and also put in place some things that would actually deal with the real problem, and the real problem, mr. president, is that our country spends too much. >> reporter: democratic senator tom harkin of iowa says republicans are trying to lock if had income and estate tax rates and some permanent spending cuts in exchange for temporary hikes in unemployment insurance and other things. and he objects to that. still aways to go, uma. uma: still aways to go indeed. wendell goler on the front lines right at the white house keeping tab on all the happenings from that vantage point. thanks so much for joining us. jon: let's bring in j
vice president biden, mcconnell, said to be about $100,000 apart with biden willing to preserve tax cuts for families making up $450,000 and mack connell wanting to go to 550,000. south dakota senator john thune is too on miss tick but his focus is different than senator bocker's. >> i certainly hope the negotiations occurring right now can conclude in a way that will give us an outcome that prevents those tax rates from increasing on americans across this country and also put in place...
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now vice president biden is said to be about 100,000 a year apart. biden is willing to preserve tax cuts for families making up to $450,000. mcconnell holding out for $550,000. a year. south carolina senator lindsey graham is not happy about it. >> in 2010 we extend the all the tax cuts because the economy was weak. in 2012, 2013, we're not going to extend the tax cuts the economy is weaker. i don't understand the economics but i do understand the politics. the president won. the president campaigned on raising rates. he will get a rate increase. >> reporter: we focus on the tax rates but that is not the only issue. the bigger issue is what the money is used for. the republicans want to use it to reduce the deficit. the democrats want to ease spending cuts for another year or so. gregg? gregg: wendell goler, thank you very much, live at the white house. we switch to the other end of the avenue and there is house speaker john boehner just arriving and, let's listen. >> [inaudible]. gregg: wow, we got a ephappy new year out of eric cantor. maybe i coul
now vice president biden is said to be about 100,000 a year apart. biden is willing to preserve tax cuts for families making up to $450,000. mcconnell holding out for $550,000. a year. south carolina senator lindsey graham is not happy about it. >> in 2010 we extend the all the tax cuts because the economy was weak. in 2012, 2013, we're not going to extend the tax cuts the economy is weaker. i don't understand the economics but i do understand the politics. the president won. the...
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vice president joe biden is taking over as lead negotiator for the democrats. meet the press, president obama blamed republicans. >> they say that the biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way. the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> if a deal is not reached by midnight tonight, taxes go up for nine out of ten americans and 2 million people without jobs will not get unemployment insurance starting tomorrow. sharp cuts in defense spending and programs will kick in onnian 2nd. >>> even if lawmakers cannot strike a deal, there will not be panic in the dairy aisle. there is a deal in place to make sure that milk prices do not skyrocket. cnbc's hampton pearson is live with more. >> how are you doing, erika. picking up on what you were talking about, congress may be having trouble avoiding the fiscal cliff. but they might be able to skirt the dairy cliff. the u.s. farm bill could keep milk prices from surging next year. it would keep a subsi
vice president joe biden is taking over as lead negotiator for the democrats. meet the press, president obama blamed republicans. >> they say that the biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way. the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> if a deal is not reached by midnight tonight, taxes go up for nine out of ten americans and 2 million people without jobs...
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he has been speaking to vice president joe biden throughout the day. it seems like there is some progress that appears to be -- rick: he said we are very, very close an says he agrees with the president who spoke during our program. when the president said the top priority is taking care of keeping those tax rates for the middle class down, mitch mcconnell saying that is the top priority and we can get it done. so let's get it done. those are probably the most optimistic words we have heard from senator mcdmonl some time. very, very close. sounds very, very promising. but there is so much to do, so much to get done parliamentary, it's sort of an organizational-wise. it's hard to get it done by midnight tonight. that what we'll be watching for in the hours ahead. arthel: for the americans who are frustrated to hear m connell say let's take care of those middle class families and we'll deal with the rest later. rick: this is a deal primarily between mitch mm connell and joe biden after some stalled efforts. they put off what they call the sequestration a
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vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. working behind the scenes as they have successfully done in the past. the senate went home last night and they are going to get in this morning at the bright hour of 11:00 a.m. eastern. i don't understand how that works. we are not seeing any evidence of progress in either chamber, but as i said, mcconnell and biden are talking. that's important. these two guys have a long history together, and have an ability to cut a deal. one major stumbling block has been overcome. republicans have dropped their demand to reduce social security, cost of living increases. you will know that as the chain cpi. >> and the public has taken their demand for social security benefits off the table. the truth is they never should have been on the table to begin with. significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> the consequences of this are too hot for the american people to be engaged, in a political messaging campaign. i'm interested in getting a result here. >> we followed th
vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. working behind the scenes as they have successfully done in the past. the senate went home last night and they are going to get in this morning at the bright hour of 11:00 a.m. eastern. i don't understand how that works. we are not seeing any evidence of progress in either chamber, but as i said, mcconnell and biden are talking. that's important. these two guys have a long history together, and have an ability to cut a deal....
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they want to lear from joe biden or one of his representatives. how did you arrive at this deal and what does it mean for us. you're watching for senators idea logical senators on both sides of this deal liberals up set that the income threshold at 450 conservatives up set that there are no spending cuts in this deal t is all revenue. will somebody slow it down and block it. you have to watch it on the stat side because that pushes the senate over the cliff too. on the house side, once they're aware of what this deal is, how many votes can john boehner get on the republican side until you get to 218 through any combination of republican and democratic votes at this point. >> woodruff: not much celebrating tonight in the capitol. or at the capitol itself. todd zwillich thank you very much. >> always a pleasure, judy. >> still to come on the newshour >> suarez: still to come on the newshour, causes and treatments for blood clots; a look back at the presidential race; building jobs skills while in high school; the emancipation proclamation; and 2012
they want to lear from joe biden or one of his representatives. how did you arrive at this deal and what does it mean for us. you're watching for senators idea logical senators on both sides of this deal liberals up set that the income threshold at 450 conservatives up set that there are no spending cuts in this deal t is all revenue. will somebody slow it down and block it. you have to watch it on the stat side because that pushes the senate over the cliff too. on the house side, once they're...
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they want to lear from joe biden or one of his representatives. how did you arrive at this deal and what does it mean for us. you're watching for senators idea logical senators on both sides of this deal, liberals up set that the income threshold at 450, conservatives up set that there are no spending cuts in this deal t is all revenue. will somebody slow it down and block it. you have to watch it on the stat side because that pushes the senate over the cliff too. on the house side, once they're aware of what this deal is, how many votes can john boehner get on the republican side until you get to 218 through any combination of republican and democratic votes at this point. >> woodruff: not much celebrating tonight in the capitol. or at the capitol itself. todd zwillich, thank you very much. >> always a pleasure, judy. >> still to come on the newshour >> suarez: still to come on the newshour, causes and treatments for blood clots; a look back at the presidential race; building jobs skills while in high school; the emancipation proclamation; and 20
they want to lear from joe biden or one of his representatives. how did you arrive at this deal and what does it mean for us. you're watching for senators idea logical senators on both sides of this deal, liberals up set that the income threshold at 450, conservatives up set that there are no spending cuts in this deal t is all revenue. will somebody slow it down and block it. you have to watch it on the stat side because that pushes the senate over the cliff too. on the house side, once...
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congressional leaders and vice president biden are struggling to avoid the fiscal cliff. those negotiations continue this morning. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, norah. they have appeared to move closer to one another. democrats have come way up from the president's longstanding position that the bush tax cuts should expire for all household income over $250,000 a year. republicans have come way down from speaker boehner's insistence that that limit be set at a million dollars. and so if there's a deal today, and that's a big "if," you can expect it would be set around $400,000, $500,000, $600,000 a year, so certainly 90, 95% of americans would be keeping their tax cut. one of the biggest sticking points for the republicans right now appears that this deal doesn't include significant spending cuts. in fact, it contain as lot of new spending and so that is one major issue that's going to have to be ironed out. and if they don't get an agreement today by the deadline, the big question, norah, is do the two sides conti
congressional leaders and vice president biden are struggling to avoid the fiscal cliff. those negotiations continue this morning. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, norah. they have appeared to move closer to one another. democrats have come way up from the president's longstanding position that the bush tax cuts should expire for all household income over $250,000 a year. republicans have come way down from speaker boehner's...
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biden stowed have given up his push to raise the estate tax. democrats are trying to delay spending cuts until 2015 and republicans are demanding more spending cuts to offset extended unemployment benefits and farm subsidies. lot of ground to make up. but mcconnell says his decision to reach out to biden was a good one. >> the vice president and i worked together on solutions before and i believe we can again. i want my colleagues to know that we'll keep everyone updated, the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political mess. i'm interested in getting a result here. >> there is no indication when the talks will resume today and neither biden nor mcconnell is predicting an agreement before midnight. but the conventional wisdom is that there is no great harm in going a few days into the new year, as long as the markets don't tank and it might even be politically easier to reach a deal after that. clayton, dave? >> juliet: thanks, we appreciate it. at issue, try to get information out of these closed door
biden stowed have given up his push to raise the estate tax. democrats are trying to delay spending cuts until 2015 and republicans are demanding more spending cuts to offset extended unemployment benefits and farm subsidies. lot of ground to make up. but mcconnell says his decision to reach out to biden was a good one. >> the vice president and i worked together on solutions before and i believe we can again. i want my colleagues to know that we'll keep everyone updated, the consequences...
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the weekend, the senate's two top leaders couldn't work out a deal, so they asked vice president joe biden to step in and try to help. and with just hours to go until this deadline, it's unclear if we'll see a deal today. lawmakers left the capital sunday night without a deal but leaders from both parties expressed their willingness to continue working. >> there's still significant distance between the two sides. but negotiations continue. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: some progress was made sunday when republicans dropped a proposal to slow social security growth. but the main sticking upon the between democrats and republicans continues to be over the threshold of tax increases. president obama campaigned on raising taxes on income over $250,000. while many congressional republicans have pushed back against any tax increases. president obama is placing the blame for the impasse on the gop. >> they say that their biggest priority is making sure we deal with the deficit in a serious way. but the way they're behaving is tha
the weekend, the senate's two top leaders couldn't work out a deal, so they asked vice president joe biden to step in and try to help. and with just hours to go until this deadline, it's unclear if we'll see a deal today. lawmakers left the capital sunday night without a deal but leaders from both parties expressed their willingness to continue working. >> there's still significant distance between the two sides. but negotiations continue. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to...